Steve Randy Waldman
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a thing that Trump's political and tech's current business strategy have in common is confident reliance on the enthusiasm of the public for being told comforting lies. turn that photo of your kid into an endearing video of a moment that never happened!

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i think we need a distinct name for this, the negative reactionary, i don't want to refer to a past because it is better for me or mine or my values, but because it is worse for my enemies. 1/

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i don't think an "ordinary" reactionary necessarily thinks they personally would be better off, but they do think the people they think of as good and best, perhaps justified as most capable of leading, would rise in the hierarchy. /fin

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Steve Randy Waldman
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* revert…

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just tell me this, do they eat quiche?

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sometimes they talk that way, but so far i don’t see a lot of the herrenvolk socialism they could very effectively, very dangerously, deploy.

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yeah, i think guilded-era restorationists qualify as reactionaries. but i think they are a small, albeit much too influential, group. the people they finance pursue objectives consistent with theirs, but do not conceive of the project the same way. 1/

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“libertarian futurists!”, the reactionaries laugh, checkbook in hand. /fin

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Maybe my glasses are tinted by my own commitments, but I don’t see a lot of people mad about talking about the ways Trump is screwing the working class, only people mad when the destroying democracy / having masked paramilitaries round people up stuff gets characterized as “distraction”.

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i don’t think the people you’re calling reactionaries want a wealth / birth elite back, though. nick fuentes, ben shapiro, candace owens, jd vance, donald trump. these people don’t represent the apex of a prior hierarchy. they were either subordinates or also-rans then. 1/

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the main relationship the contemporary right has with, say, William Buckley is adopting race as a kind of totem of hierarchical position. it’s like Trump is a poor man’s version of a rich man, a steampunk version of the 1950s is their idiot version of a world they could stand atop. 2/

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that’s why i do think reactionary is the wrong word for them. they were not winners of any past. they were losers then, losers through the neoliberal period to, were casting about in the early 2010s for some outsider politics to latch onto, that’s all MAGA really is to them. 3/

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i don’t deny that old school reactionaries have latched onto them. a whole universe of quiet KKK sympathizers rides along with Candace Owens but has a tree in mind if she gets “uppity”. 4/

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those people are reactionaries — they sat atop a Jim Crow racial hierarchy, lost that position, want it back. but i don’t think that characterizes most of the politics of the contemporary right wing. 5/

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right populism criticizes the former neoliberal center not so much from an overt claim of white supremacy, but from a claim of liberal hypocrisy, of failing to honor ideals they too thought they bought. when you said antidiscrimination you just meant people could discriminate against me. 6/

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obviously that all bleeds and blurs into over white supremacy you can characterize as reaction. if you were discriminating against people who look like me but people who look like me were still disproportionate at the top, maybe that just means we’re genetically better. 7/

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it’s an easy path a lot of them have now tread. but i think it’s a misreading of that movement that it started there. like a poison seed, an old form of American reaction, antebellum in fact, has sprouted and taken firm root. 8/

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but the soil was fertilized by something quite new, and that new thing is still the dominant part of the “alt right” or MAGA or whatever, although i’d guess it has little defense against and will easily succumb to the culture and hierarchy that championed chattel slavery. /fin

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the florida citrus industry has basically been wiped out by a blight. there has been an impact, orange juice has become less culturally ubiquitous, no longer a default nonnegotiable component of breakfast. but we’re not dead. don’t even have scurvy.

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i guess we’re arguing definitions. i don’t think “once stable” can be a criterion, the reaction is to revealed instability. wanting to repeal something is in a way trying to go back to a past, but i don’t think that captures it. 1/

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when we talk about “right-wing reactionaries” we bring to mind people upset by the overturning of old hierarchies, wanting to reoverturn hierarchies back. 2/

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but i guess what motivates my little provocation (obviously that thread was a provocation) was a conjecture that this is in fact the motivation of a lot of self-styled centrists. 3/

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that is, they are not so much animated by a project of justice or equality, the arc of history they so went on about. they were at the top of a social hierarchy, and what they’re after is just getting that back. 4/

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some people of their broad class (think prominent tech people) work to retain social position by joining the new winning team. others for whatever reason won’t do that, so want their team to win again. 5/

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some evidence for this is the very same people were all-in on identitarian approaches to social justice when that was the tactic Hillary Clinton adopted to simultaneously ward off challenges from Bernie and Trump. now they dismiss those approaches as “the groups”. 6/

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one wonders whether the justice part ever had anything really to do with it. /fin

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an interesting fact of our moment is that the only political faction who are literal reactionaries are the people who style themselves centrists, moderates. 1/

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the right is now radical, pursuing a vision as novel as it is horrid. its goals have some relationship to an idealized past, but only like steampunk has some relationship to history. 2/

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socialists, progressives, social democrats, greens, national or subnational liberationists, all of these tendencies are overtly going for something new. 3/

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only one influential faction that styles itself center has for its project basically return to as things were, before tumultuous changes. its project is a return to Clintonism, or Obamaism (are they synonyms?). they may be wise or unwise, but if the word has any meaning they are reactionaries. /fin

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i’m not arguing about why they hate him. they hate him. maybe they wld hate the next guy too because the reasons are entirely structural, maybe there are more alternatives in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy. but they hate him, he owns a big chunk of parliament, mayhem ensues.

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has there ever been a more contemptuous performance before Congress, in the ordinary sense of that word, than Pam Bondi?

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most of the public isn’t even at that level. they want to throw the bum out, they can’t. what the policy constraints are and who ultimately does what is a different set of questions (about which you and i might or might not agree but whatever).

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better to just do them than pretend that everything is normal while you have a government the public hates.

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Steve Randy Waldman
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one point to add about the French situation is that the role of France’s unusually strong Presidency has meant the issue is not too much representation or change but too little. 1/

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the public’s dissatisfaction with Macron destabilizes potential parliaments, prevents emergence of new parties that might otherwise form workable coalitions with the Macron-unhappy parties. /fin

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i know you were hungry, but that’s what the peanuts are for.

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my body shutdown years ago after exceeding all psychic budgets, but essential work has continued begrudgingly and without pay.

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which view? the nonapartheid state commits you to bringing new residents to full and equal participation, over time, ie no permanent guest worker class. whether and how many new residents you permit is a Westphalian state’s choice orthogonal to this divergence.

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i mean, we can all just read the New York Times, right?

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as a peacemaker, i am perfectly willing to accept your absolute surrender.