Steve Randy Waldman
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Whatever you might think of other controversializing, no one one the planet understands and presents more clearly the basic economic mechanisms of social democracy than @mattbruenig.bsky.social. from www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2025/10/26/d... ht @jdcmedlock.bsky.social

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Ultimately, I don’t think Lazardi and I even diverge in our understanding of how to deal with inequality. When you look at the basic math involved in these questions, it’s clear what you have to do:

1. Compress the wage scale, such as through unionization and collective bargaining.

2. Redistribute capital’s share, either socially (as in Alaska) or through a higher labor share.

3.Provide income to nonworkers via the welfare state.

What often happens in this debate is just that some people have various ideological hang-ups that make them think that (1) and (2) are real hardcore anti-capitalism and (3) is not. And downstream of that, they go about trying to prove that (1) and (2) matter more than (3). But, at least when it comes to overall inequality, this just isn’t true. Text: Ultimately, I don’t think Lazardi and I even diverge in our understanding of how to deal with inequality. When you look at the basic math involved in these questions, it’s clear what you have to do: 1. Compress the wage scale, such as through unionization and collective bargaining. 2. Redistribute capital’s share, either socially (as in Alaska) or through a higher labor share. 3.Provide income to nonworkers via the welfare state. What often happens in this debate is just that some people have various ideological hang-ups that make them think that (1) and (2) are real hardcore anti-capitalism and (3) is not. And downstream of that, they go about trying to prove that (1) and (2) matter more than (3). But, at least when it comes to overall inequality, this just isn’t true.
Steve Randy Waldman
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an irony is that elites support a “strong man” precisely when they think they can have their way with him. they sell the public on an untrammeled genius who will overthrow the obstacles and just fix things. but it’s the things that fear otherwise being fixed who in fact elevate him!

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i think the argument over housing and private profits is not about whether it’s legitimate that there should be private profits in building housing — of course there should! as with any sphere in which private contractors are engaged. 1/

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but questions of to what degree housing supply should be *directed* by private profit incentives are, i think, legitimately much thornier. /fin

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samizdat shittiness.

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Stein’s Law needs a corollary. The law is, what cannot go on forever will stop. The corollary is, before the fall, people will extrapolate its continuance to long past the time that it will stop.

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building a giant golden ballroom while cutting SNAP has very Marie Antoinette vibes.

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How would you characterize or describe the networking-networking level? I guess I’d interpret it broadly as being more intentional about using what happens on social media to build deeper personal or professional relationships off social media?

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i’d have a hard time decoding what exactly that would mean. are we not networking? would networking networking mean being more explicit about discussing, coordinating on, reverting to private communication about professional and career matters?

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our absolute condition has definitely improved, mostly as a matter of technology. we have vaccines, electricity, indoor plumbing. we are still not overtly as caste based a society as we once was, though we are in danger of a lot of reversion there. 1/

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i think you are much too complacent. technology will not revert, but it can immiserate as well as help. we are more surveilled, and along a variety of basic dimensions (like being able to skip town and start over) much more unfree than people in the past. 2/

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pretty soon, technology may well be enforcing laws over which we have little democratic control with overt violence. it may start with armed drones surveilling the border, but it won't end there. 3/

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we are not going to bring back full jim crow racial distinctions, but a multiracial precarious underclass is expanding and may be surveilled and policed and immiserated. we are bringing back the Fritz Lang Metropolis world that the New Deal averted. 4/

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UAE is the model, but here as there, most people would have the status of guest worker. It wouldn't be confined to immigrants. 5/

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You can always argue absolute condition is better, because technology. Unless we nuke ourselves (far from out of the question), we're likely in continuity to have less actual caloric deficiency than we had in the Gilded Age. 6/

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But in welfare terms, I don't know that a decently fed (if ever insecure ex ante about just how) serf class (no doubt with formal but meaningless and unenforceable equality) qualifies as absolute improvement, at least relative to the non-serfs of that era. 7/

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Even with the fucking HUGE tailwind of technological advancement, we are toying with shapes of society that would mean in absolute terms, one might prefer the outhouse and drafts of a 19th C New England town to the surveilled, climate controlled, propagandized present. 8/

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Dignity and freedom matter a great deal to human welfare, and the path we're on erases it all. As I said, yes, I think you are too whiggish, too complacent. All the Kuznets curves — the original re inquality, the environmental version, the arc of justice version — have undone themselves. 9/

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If we don't repair the direction, I think we may well be quite worse off in absolute terms, with technological change offset by various forms of crisis, conflict, or quiet coercion and subjection. /fin

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lots of dimensions have changed. the gilded age emphasizes dimensions of inequality in wealth and its undermining of democracy and corruption of power. we are worse on those dimensions now, and that’s beginning to corrode some of the other improvements you point to. 1/

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the arc of history did okay for a while, but it’s pointing in a dangerous direction. and i don’t think it will bend back toward any kind of justice or improvement of mass circumstance unless we address those core imbalances. /fin

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until you take down all your scurrilous posts that are not praising me, i hereby impose a 10% surcharge on your skeets.

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americans decided they would test the proposition “nothing matters.” though i understand how the evidence for the proposition sometimes appears considerable, i remain skeptical it will ultimately prove correct.

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strangers in a familiar land.

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an automated system demands your urgent attention.

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i don’t think this plan to force a divorce between yin and yang is going to work out very well.

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virtue shames our leaders and is therefore a crime against the state.

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i agree the gilded age analogies are overwrought. the era we are living through is much worse than the gilded age.

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well, my parents did!

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I don't think we should be agnostic, to the degree balance is what we're after, tariffs just tax too much! (There might be other cases for tariffs, e.g. protecting defense-critical industries, even though even there I think there are better ways to go.) 1/

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I like that your proposal is about trying to create a new set of international norms. I think that's critical. 2/

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I think it's also critical, given the level of international discord and distrust, that deficit countries (who tend to find imbalance politically disagreeable, despite the consumption stimulus) have unilateral, non-discriminatory (ie non-bilateral) tools to insist upon balance. 3/

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But while the actions are unilateral, internationally agreed norms should legitimate them, acknowledge imbalance as a problem and bless a suite of tools deficit countries can unilaterally deploy to address them. (As the original Bretton Woods accords did!) /fin

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Yes. It's pretty straightforward to say that the only way foreign entities end up with our securities is by selling to us more than they buy, and we should penalize them for that.

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