Steve Randy Waldman
@interfluidity.com

kind of a Rorschach test in multiple senses.

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Steve Randy Waldman
@interfluidity.com

What if instead of replacing search with AI, Google used AI tools within its search algorithm to read stuff, follow links, and read those. It could then uprank hypertext—textual content that actually links, from within the text, to other content—without getting fooled by crap SEO and content farming

Steve Randy Waldman
@interfluidity.com

yeah, relying avoiding negatives doesn't work so well with an opponent that can just make stuff up and a media environment that cares if stuff's engaging much more than if it's true.

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Steve Randy Waldman
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sorry for my mis-inference!

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i think she didn't want to talk about anything outside of a small, preapproved range. the theory of the campaign was being sane, vibrant, joyful, not being a literally insane old man talking about eating cats, meant the election was hers, unless she gaffed in the sense of saying something dangerous

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Steve Randy Waldman
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right. last year she perceived, well, you, as a weakness, a danger, a wedge, and did everything she could to change the subject rather than be forced to please some and alienate others. but her opponents still had her prior cycle comments. maybe it'd have been better to just own them and be good.

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Steve Randy Waldman
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i think she did a bit better than that, though her earlier history is checkered on the issue. 19thnews.org/2024/10/harr...

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Steve Randy Waldman
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someone asked her a question about gender affirmative care for prisoners in 2020 and she gave a humane answer and therefore her 2024 campaign was doomed, doomed and therefore we must never have groups that might publicly put people on the record in ways that years later prove inconvenient.

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Steve Randy Waldman
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to be clear, my "conspiratorial dander up" isn't an accusation of conspiracy. obviously i have no evidence of that. 1/

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it's an expression of concern, that (1) there is a plausible political motivation to encourage Google to privilege forms of media most susceptible to state pressure, which very much includes TV; and (2) Google has shown itself susceptible to even obviously illegitiate forms of state pressure. 2/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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of course, for any set of editorial choices, there will be innocent explanations and nefarious, and it will be difficult for outsiders to rebut claims that the explanations are purely innocent. 3/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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but Google is not and has never been a "price taker" on what to surface. Google shapes the internet as much as it is shaped by it. it was Facebook that most ostentatiously, very publicly, provoked a pivot to video, for example. Google is not less powerful than Facebook. 4/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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i don't at all buy these woe-is-me-its-all-slop apologies from Googlers. it's all slop because Google rewards slop, shifted from treating SEO as an adversarial practice to overcome to a source of influence by which to shape publisher behavior. 5/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Google has shaped. Google has participated actively in the destruction of the open internet, foisting trends like AMP, killing Reader, privileging more "professional" (financially motivated), sources of content. 6/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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now, alas, these claims that the open internet is dead (news to those of us who still publish long-tail sites), and, so sorry, we've no choice but to replace it with massive influence agents that we construct and control. 7/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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i suspect that Google's less-than-public-spirited decisionmaking about the internet in the past had nothing to do with anything like political conspiracy. Google+ succeeding would be awesome, RSS often skips ads why would we build infrastructure for it? "Business decisions" that make sense. 8/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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but some of us really trusted Google in its early days, made apologies for it as it achieved dangerous scale on the theory that they were us, they shared our view of the kind of network we wanted to live on. that trust was betrayed, one business decision at a time. 9/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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and now we do have a state interested in exercising active control over the internet, and a leadership at Google that very publicly and pathetically signals its willingness to play ball, so I don't think Google can expect much benefit of the doubt even in a Hanlon's razor sense. /fin

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Steve Randy Waldman
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oh. i misunderstood you. i interpreted your tweet as suggesting that TV news buys ads from Google, so that Google gets revenue by sending traffic their way. you are saying that PageRank sees them as high quality because of ad clicks. i'm sorry for the misunderstanding. 1/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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i think ad clicks are a very poor marker of quality, that Google should not weigh clicks through paid links highly. But it's a different claim than what I was rebutting. 2/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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now i think you are making a different claim, that, perhaps as a result of all their advertising, or not, people go to TV sources, so they are "trusted", so Google should rank them highly. 3/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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i don't think that's right. Google's job is fundamentally editing and curation. it can't — well it oughtn't — follow mere volume. volume can largely be bought, traditional mass media by its nature is a least-common-demoninator, there's little information in its high traffic. 4/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Google has gone through many different epochs. This behavior, putting TV stations first, seems new. Prior to COVID, Google did try to discern quality signals from the long tail, rather than rely mindlessly quantitatively on clicks. 5/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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During COVID, Google and social media began to privilege "trustworthy" sources — traditional media but often print — over the web's long tail, defending themselves against misinformation concerns. That wasn't great, but was understandable under the circumstances. 6/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Prioritizing TV in particular is new, and mere clicks explain nothing, because Google's job is to do a good job, not to follow mere clicks. At a moment when TV news is being ostentatiously brought under political control, I find this a concerning new choice. /fin

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Google's job is not to serve revenue. It's to serve relevance. What a bizarre way to put it, if Google does not corrupt its product — vis a vis its own stated ideals when it introduced its product! — that would be a "conspiracy" against those who best pay them off? 1/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Maybe Google's motivation here is purely financial, not political. But that is not exonerative at all. The political can exert extraordinary control over the financial incentives of large firms. Would CBS not paying off Trump then be a conspiracy against him? Not a great way of putting things. /fin

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Steve Randy Waldman
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The way Google prioritizes links to TV stories when I search for newsy things has my conspiratorial dander up. TV news is the medium most susceptible to capture and control. Google, instead of linking to the text-based web—the medium most open to diverse viewpoints—privileges what can be controlled.

Steve Randy Waldman
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i guess i don’t see us very close to anything like that, and even in theory only we humans know our own values and interests, a well designed information system can help us but not replace our role. 1/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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that doesn’t mean there are no alternatives to status quo representative democracy ( see eg www.interfluidity.com/v2/9069.html ), but it does mean some kind of system in which we have an active role. /fin

interfluidity » Mass representative democracy

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Steve Randy Waldman
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i mean, they're nice people when you chat at the kids' soccer game.

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#neofeudalism

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Steve Randy Waldman
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i'm really a single issue voter at this point: electoral reform. if we don't "break the two-party doom loop', as @leedrutman.bsky.social put it, it's hard to see how we don't escalate to killing each other even more than we are, let alone get any kind of sane and sensible governance.

Steve Randy Waldman
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It's surprising to me how large a fraction of prominent political violence (or violence that becomes very political ex post) has occurred in Minneapolis, a place I generally think of as very safe and civilized.

Steve Randy Waldman
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if we’re going to start throwing around accusations of “stochastic terrorism”…

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we mock their reasoning. the supreme court blesses it.

Steve Randy Waldman
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the future of media is digital samizdat.

Steve Randy Waldman
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i just had a call from a very polite gentleman running for state house in a state not mine, seeking a donation. good luck to him, but it’s getting a bit ridiculous.