Steve Randy Waldman
@interfluidity.com

I'm a customer of a bank, with a DDA. I make a demand to withdraw my money. The bank refuses. The bank, then, has failed. Where's FDIC? St Louis Fed is a supervisor and regulator, but has nothing to do with this question.

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Is it FDIC insured? Is FDIC simply welching on its obligations?

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Steve Randy Waldman
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I'll accept your word on that! You definitely have a deeper knowledge of this than I do.

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Steve Randy Waldman
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A policy goal of FDIC is that ordinary consumers within formal insured limits not worry about bank solvency. It is absolutely not a policy goal of FDIC that businesses brokering deposits abjure concerns about solvency. 1/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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I agree that it's perhaps too much to hope for, but brokers of deposits evaluate the marginal risk of even FDIC-insured banks versus the interest spreads some banks offer precisely to attract brokered deposits. 2/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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FDIC, at least under prior-to-SVB understandings, did not exist to tell ROKU it didn't need to worry about bank solvency when depositing $1B in a single bank. 3/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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You can argue — I sometime have! — that basically any depositor-side diligence is too much to hope for, and that regulation must substitute for all of that. 4/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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But that is not, even now post SVB, the actual status quo. Business customers retain some responsibility for the banks with which they do business. 5/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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In the case of FBO accounts, the very clear obligation of the businesses arranging them is TO BE SURE THEY ARE ADEQUATELY DOCUMENTED SUCH THAT THEY ARE INSURED WITH CERTAINTY BY FDIC. They must be as safe as personal checking accounts at the same bank. 6/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Obviously, Synapse failed to fulfill this obligation. /fin

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Steve Randy Waldman
@interfluidity.com

That's why clear, and if necessary quite pervasive, regulation is often required. Obviously it should be "good" regulation — as incentive compatible as possible, no more burdensome than is necessary. Ideally its structural, rather than supervisory! But enforcement is always a whac-a-mole approach.

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Steve Randy Waldman
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I don't dispute that Evolve may have been sketch and terrible. The best way to rob a bank is to own one. And you obviously know this story more deeply than I do. 1/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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But looking around, it seems that Synapse did not just have one banking partner, and loss of its capacity and role in tracking backing assets was much of the story. The failure was not only at one bank. www.bankingdive.com/news/5-lesso... /fin

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Steve Randy Waldman
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I think she's been about the most extraordinary regulator the United States has ever been blessed with. Along with Jonathan Kanter at DOJ. Oh, and Rohit Chopra at an outfit called the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. He's also been quite extraordinary, extraordinarily active and aggressive.

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Steve Randy Waldman
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It is a dereliction by banking regulators up the chain. Absolutely. But it is first and foremost a dereliction of the businesses that made and supervised these arrangements, on behalf of nonprofessional customers.

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Oh yeah. The problem is we need more aggressive, harder-working regulators than Lina Khan.

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Steve Randy Waldman
@interfluidity.com

An e-mail notification wouldn't have been sufficient or really meaningful. 1/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Because most of us are not acting most of the time in a role of financial professional, defaults on most financial products have to be paternalistically protective. A regime of disclosure and caveat emptor is not sufficient for anything that presents itself as an ordinary savings product. 2/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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In the article that kicked this off, people held funds in what they did not believe to be a crypto exchange, right? This infrastructure was used, from many customers' perspective, for ordinary savings. (Is that wrong?) 3/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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I understand that it's been frustrating for crypto-affiliated businesses that crypto's gray status limits the range and quality of their banking relationships. But that has been a fact of the world. It imposes real obligations and limitations. 4/

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Steve Randy Waldman
@interfluidity.com

An implication is that perhaps you simply *can't* be both a crypto product and effectively a custodian of ordinary savings. If you are going be a front end for people's saving, you need a quality back end, and crypto affiliation might unduly limit the range and quality available. 5/

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Steve Randy Waldman
@interfluidity.com

You can bristle against that. But it doesn't excuse going with and failing adequately to supervise a sketch banking partner that will intermingle your customers' money with its own prior losses and embezzlements. /fin

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Steve Randy Waldman
@interfluidity.com

With whom was the customer relationship, with Synapse or the bank? I hope you get your money back! But did you have a relationship with Evolve, intentionally sign off on having your funds dispersed to related entities? From a human, nonlegalistic perspective, in whose care did you place you funds?

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Steve Randy Waldman
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I wish them well in all the lawsuits, for sure.

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Does Evolve survive? That would be a failure on the part of FDIC, for sure. Do customers get made whole? 1/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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I'm glad going forward there's a regulatory patch to prevent precisely this occurrence. Is that sufficient? Shouldn't there be a precautionary regime of regulation in place to ensure that new workarounds aren't tried for "more efficient" backing assets? 2/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Should we be excited about deleting CFPB and perhaps FDIC going forward? Synapse was an Andreeson-Horowiiz backed firm. What do you think of their reputation. Should the public place must trust its brilliant ventures? This isn't the first firm in history. 3/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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There is so much forgiveness of failure, within the Valley culture. God forbid there be as much grace offered to those who are collateral damage of those failures. That would be expensive! And to prevent it would require, well, intrusive and sometimes burdensome regulation. 4/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Buidl! 🔥🔥🔥 /fin

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Steve Randy Waldman
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The setup is problematic, because the money isn't there. The "except insofars" is Syapse's sacred responsibility. If they sleep, I hope they are grateful for God's grace. 1/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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If you can't find another partner and your only alternative is to accept a complication of status and diminishment of security of your customers' assets, you wind down. Your business' continuing operation is lower priority than the funds other people have entrusted in you. /fin

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Steve Randy Waldman
@interfluidity.com

So. The backing assets are known, to a first approximation, to be in the custody of Evolve, an FDIC-insured and regulated bank. Yet Synapse, the party whom users entrusted with their savings, was "forced" to transfer these assets to uninsured affiliated entities? 1/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Would you do this with your money? Is this reasonable diligence? 2/

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Steve Randy Waldman
@interfluidity.com

Obviously not. Wealthy people keep conservative assets in FDIC insured titular-accounts, or TBTF institutions deemed tacitly insured. 3/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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No "prudent man" consents to their assets getting swept into uninsured SPVs absent an excess return, and understanding they are taking a calculated risk on that return. 4/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Do retail customers sometimes get so swindled? Sure. They sometimes do consent to "sweeps" into underinsured money markets whose risk is inadequately compensated. But Synapse was not a retail customer. It was a professional fiduciary with other people had entrusted their lives' savings. 5/

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Steve Randy Waldman
@interfluidity.com

Oops! It was a start-up! Run by a bunch of twnetty-somethings, maybe! Live and learn. Fucking no. That's why custodial finance is a sphere that requires tremendous, burdensome regulation. 6/

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Steve Randy Waldman
@interfluidity.com

You don't let the backing assets become somebody else's shell game. You don't build a machine with seems through which other people's money can be exfiltrated. /fin

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Steve Randy Waldman
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move fast and break other people.

Steve Randy Waldman
@interfluidity.com

I don't buy it. The fintech apps are what should have a record of what is owed to whom, and what assets back it. If a banking bank lacks the assets, the fintech should know just who to sue and pursue. There is no excuse for managing customer accounts and not knowing what the backing assets are.

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Steve Randy Waldman
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i'm so glad this community will have more political influence and less regulation, in order to innovate even more aggressively. www.cnbc.com/2024/11/22/s... via @ernie.tedium.co

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Steve Randy Waldman
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without comment. www.wfla.com/news/polk-co...

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Steve Randy Waldman
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