Steve Randy Waldman
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“if Trump wants your opinion, he’ll tell you what he wants it to be.” @pkrugman.bsky.social

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it’s just a special military operation now.

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Yes. I wonder how that will work in a big A autocratic party when two people fancy themselves entitled to wield the fasces, one for his adulation by the people, another for his limitless wealth.

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Yes. Once Trump overtook and realigned the party, besides the allegiances of employees, I think there was some lingering discomfort with how, well, stupid and incoherent the Trump coalition can be. They fancy themselves high IQ! But that’s where they (imagine they) can make a contribution.

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Yes. And very right to coin + bring in “IQ realism”. That’s the core allegiance of a lot of Tribe Gray. “Race realism” follows — variables are rarely independent in human affairs, of course we’d expect average IQ differences by group, refusing to see this is denying the science i’m smart you’re not.

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This movement is for the forgotten working man.

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I don’t disagree. If the Democratic Party plainly better served his material / monarchical interests, he’d talk up trans rights and start every meeting with a land acknowledgement. 1/

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But the claim I think people like @mattyglesias.bsky.social try to make is that there’s some world in which people like Musk support the progressive values despite the kind of modest material costs an Obama would impose relative to Republicans lower taxes and greater deference. 2/

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There might be a colorable case there for a lot of tech titans. But for Musk — and he’s hardly alone, there’s been a lot of toying with “race realism” in tribe gray for years, i swear i have some scars to prove it — it does not strike me as remotely plausible. 3/

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These people have had strongly held views they’ve felt they had to suppress, and would have to suppress in anything remotely like the post-FDR Democratic coalition. 4/

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They also like the freedom to do drugs and stuff, which they’d have had to suppress in the historical Republican coalition. 5/

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But once a libertine, “race-realist”-curious, business (monopoly) friendly realignment occurred in the Republican Party, why wouldn’t they have jumped? (And that stuff precedes their influence, and is not down to Thiel. Trump done it.) 6/

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The only real constraint was the values of their progressively college educated employees. But over the last two years, they feel they’ve acquired a whip hand there. 7/

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So, jump they have. /fin

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Suppose Elon Musk’s, um, hand gestures, his support of AfD, and promotion of replacement theory have persuaded you he has some interest or fascination with the historical Nazi movement. 1/

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Musk has been fascinated by the number 420, which (4/20) is Hitler’s birthday but also a marijuana signifier, for many years. observer.com/2024/04/elon... 2/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Is your inference he recently became Nazi-curious, and previously had fetishized 420 solely over marijuana, or that he had some interest in Nazism for a long time and enjoyed the ambiguity and plausible deniability thay 420’s marijuana associations afforded? 3/

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If the latter, is it plausible that the wealthiest and most influential figure in “tech” would have remained supportive of the Democratic Party and its racially, culturally, and sexually progressive values if only partisans had been less mean to tech? 4/

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Or is it more plausible than any apparent progressivism was always feigned and as Musk’s wealth and power grew he would be emboldened to openly advocate for his views? 5/

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We can’t know! In some counterfactual universe where the racially, socially, and culturally progressive party was also the low taxes on rich people and deferential to monopoly party, maybe Musk’s material interests would have overwhelmed his, um, “playful” fascinations. 6/

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But in anything like the actual universe, I think the evidence suggests there was little hope the party both more economically and culturally progressive could have retained this person’s support if a more materially friendly, more racially “realist” party could champion his interests. /fin

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God I want an edit button. Sorry for the typos.

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sometimes it isn’t what you say or think, but how you comport yourself.

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it’s an huge breakthrough, artificial sea lions.

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if you were to observe the world through infrared goggles, would it be visibly more hazy now than 40 years ago?

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government as a jenga game.

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ouch.

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hey, didn't we put twenty-somethings in charge of Iraq's economy back in the day? that worked out well.

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it's just a bit pathetic.

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1488 is a coinage by US white supremicist movements. the 88 refers to Hitler. there is not just one "Nazi number". it's a judgment call how you want to take Musk's 420 fascination. years ago, when i noticed the ambiguity, i thought the Hitler connection a stretch. i don't think that anymore.

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Steve Randy Waldman
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How do you know what actually motivates his fascination with that number? Because marijuana is how he's publicly explained it?

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Oh, I don't have any delusions about the "agency" people have when they vote. The amorphous public is an amorphous public, whether it is voting or buying. 1/

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We need to build institutions under which governments are likely to emerge that are capable of organizing collective action intelligently. Part of that is voting, both to inform and discipline that government. 2/

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But what matters is whether the institutions confer both political legitimacy and quality, to establish capable collective agency. Our status quo political institutions, including how you and I vote now, plainly aren't doing that. 3/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Somehow out of the mess of broken institutions we need to enact changes that will undo and reform those institutions. Not easy. Perhaps not probable, if you are a betting man. But neither impossible nor unprecedented either. 4/

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We'll have to see how we survive the next few years to see whether we get another shot. Or maybe we in some sense we don't survive (perhaps for many of us we literally don't survive), and something new has a shot of growing from the corpse. Or perhaps armageddon. 5/

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I'm hoping for the easiest, least armageddon-ish path. /fin

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No offense, but I think that's dumb. These things thrive because of coordination equilibria. Humans almost never break coordination equilibria by spontaneously, in isolation, bearing switching costs and hoping others do the same. 1/

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Coordinated collective action is required, and in a world where most people are and mean to stay busy and rationally ignorant of things like local maxima as traps, imagining mere communication by the concerned will deliver is also dumb. This is what state action is for. /fin

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A hand gesture that culminates remarkably like a Nazi salute but begins with a hand on the heart might have been some novelty, something not intended as a Nazi salute. 1/

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A longstanding fascination with the number 420 is pretty weak tea as evidence, even if 4/20 is Hitler's birthday. 2/

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Support of AfD in Germany doesn't mean you are a Nazi sympathizer, even if that party has neonazi connections. 3/

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Circumstantial evidence could always be coincidental. But as circumstantial evidence piles up, the probability of coincidence declines. 4/

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Sure it could all be a gag! Trigger the libs! 5/

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But that's just a different interpretation of the basic claim, that jokingly or not Musk has some longstanding interest in communicating support of Nazi-ish things. (And the support of AfD doesn't seem too jokey?) /fin [corrected, originally mistakenly referred to Trump rather than Musk]

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