yeah, i think that’s right, particular malefactors “should”, but never would, consent to punishment. i think there are limits to the severity of punishment in a just cause. 1/

but mostly i am thinking in terms of broader populations, rather than particular evildoers. 2/

ordinary “MAGA supporters” are on the other side of a cause I support, which is just because my cause offers them a place as full and equal citizens of a republic, even if it is a robust equality they themselves dislike and would not consent to. /fin