i guess i’m going to say this doesn’t qualify as what i meant by “in person”. i mean you are there on a bus, like i am behind a screen when i’ve seen various videos of them. there’s no question they were a widespread elite and the media fad. 1/

but actually giving one, in real time before live people, strikes me as restricted to a certain category of elite events? i don’t know, as i say, i’ve never experienced it. /fin