I guess I’m not sure I’m resisting. I understand that you and @rajakorman.bsky.social diasgree on whether it was good or bad, I agree that neoliberalism sought to constrain state action in favor of the cementing the use and extension of market logics. 1/

I just think “the encasement of markets in public systems of regulation and adjudication” is poor description of that. I only understand what you and @rajakorman.bsky.social seem to mean by that from this conversation. 2/

The phrase is ambiguous. What you and @rajakorman.bsky.social are using it to denote is that public systems were made into a “case” that protected the extended role and domain of market logics. Which, fine, no disagreement. 3/

But a more natural reading of the phrase is that under neoliberalism the state encased in the sense of cabin, fix, restrict, restrain markets, rather than protect against whatever might challenge them. Which sounds like embeddedness or social democracy. 4/

I like both of you, and delight that you genially agree on the phenomenon and tease each other about whether it’s good or bad. I agree on the phenomenon too. 5/

But if you are mooting a definition of neoliberalism, perhaps an is-it-a-woman-or-a-duck phrase that most readers would, I contend misread (that I misread before I had the benefit of this thread) is perhaps not great. /fin