Steve Randy Waldman
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so. if you live in a town that can't or doesn't pay for fire service you might have moral rights against arson, but they won't be very effective. the first project is building a town government that is actually protective. 1/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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internal mass violence by states is usually (not always, but much much more commonly than not) imposed in large part along "sectional" lines. an effective state requires a degree of integration, even assimilation, paradoxically even in order to accommodate and even celebrate group difference. 2/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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in success cases, assimilation and accommodation are complements, not substitutes. 3/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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however, when nationalists (that is the right term for what you advocate) seek to grant rights to nations independent of, orthogonal to, states, it becomes difficult for states to manage a project of integration. 4/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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is it okay to insist that schools be taught in the state's official language, even if a minority community would prefer their kids taught in their own national tongue? or is that genocide? (calling that genocide was part of Russia's pretext for invading Ukraine.) 5/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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in general, evidence is strong that when outside actors support national or group rights of minorities in other states, that increases risk of thr "exclusion" (a word encompassing everything from discrimination to ethnic cleansing to extermin8n). politicalscience.columbian.gwu.edu/politics-nat... 6/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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the project of building and sustaining a civilized state is *hard*. but in practice, all rights derive from state. as Hannah Arendt put it, protection by an organized state amounts to "the right to have rights" at all. 7/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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placing abstract, external constraints how on the project of state consolidation — forming an "artificial" nation that coincides to a great degree with the full diversity encompassed by the territory of a state — is prosecuted… 8/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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with respect to the profoundly difficult problem of integrating (and then hopefully celebrating!) diverse identities (celebration happens only in very confident states) is counterproductive. 9/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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but counterproductive is too anodyne a word. because the real life consequence is frequently horror and atrocity. 10/

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Steve Randy Waldman
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Israel/Palestine is in practice a single territory on which two groups, neither of whom have formed a successful state that integrates all the residents of the territories, demand individual national rights. we have seen the results over decades. really blossoming now. /fin

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