@aliceif @kura safari on desktop does it by default, as does at least one other browser — brave i think. it was having to dig to find the setting to turn truncated urls off in desktop brave i think that provoked the microrant. but i can’t check right now.

UPDATE: It looks like Brave on desktop does the right thing (does not truncate). Contrary to what I misremembered above, on desktop (MacOS), truncation remains uniquely a Safari pathology.

@aliceif @kura Here's a screenshot of five MacOS desktop browsers (Safari, Firefox, Brave, Chrome, Vivaldi).

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Five desktop browsers (Safari, Firefox, Brave, Chrome, Vivaldi) pointing to the same URL on MacOS. Safari hides the path part of the URL. The rest do not. Five desktop browsers (Safari, Firefox, Brave, Chrome, Vivaldi) pointing to the same URL on MacOS. Safari hides the path part of the URL. The rest do not.

“Marjorie Taylor Greene Is No Neville Chamberlain” thedispatch.com/newsletter/wan

@aliceif @kura atm i’m on a phone. so blame ios maybe (this trend unsurprisingly began as an apple “innovation”). browsers are chrome, firefox, safari, brave.

url is drafts.interfluidity.com/2024/

UPDATE: for the impatient, three out of four truncate (firefox does not). thanks @kura

please connect while i try to hold you.

people who are sure what everybody else is consuming is propaganda have often learned that from propaganda.

@Alon I don’t know how I can persuade you of how unpopular Israel has become beyond a pretty hard political right in the United States, and how difficult a task even liberal Zionists accustomed to defending Israel face not just because others are raucous or antisemitic, but because it is hard not to concede that it is an exercise in defending the indefensible. It is a message you are extremely reluctant to hear, but it is true nevertheless.

“What has Biden asked from Israel?” jabberwocking.com/what-has-bid

Via @damonlinker, via , these essays by are a fascinating gateway into strands of the right (and sometimes small-is-beautiful left) that prefigure Trumpism.

“Beautiful Losers” chroniclesmagazine.org/web/bea

“Nationalism, Old and New” chroniclesmagazine.org/web/nat

Both linked from this @damonlinker piece: damonlinker.substack.com/p/tru (paywalled, i’ve only read the free intro.)

cc @poetryforsupper

@phillmv “wag the dog” seems quaint. at this point all that’s left is the tail.

@phillmv (meanwhile, Israel attacking Iran, which NPR had been willing to confirm nearly an hour prior, didn’t merit a mention.)

@Alon i don’t think that’s informative. USians don’t have positive views of a cause they associate with Islamist terrorism. the issue isn’t Americans supporting the Palestinian national project or God forbid Hamas. of course we support Israel more. but we don’t support bombing trapped civilians or starving children, even for a cause we’d otherwise feel warmly towards. we increasingly resent becoming at best “complicit” in the moral catastrophe Israel has allowed itself to become.

i am greatly relieved by how restrained the Israeli counterstrike appears to have been.

i do hope that the matter can now be deemed concluded.

@peter i’d really like to see it clean a gas station bathroom.

@scottjenson the future is bright, if it weren’t for those darned naysayers.

@Alon news.gallup.com/poll/642695/ma

do your kids know how to use a command line?

if so, at what age did they learn?

@europlus @mos_8502 self-fulfilling suspicion.

@drahardja it shouldn’t be prerequisite, sure. but it’s desirable. so UIs should invite it, encourage it, enable it even unconsciously.

when URLs are there, you see them and learn things about them, maybe even copy and paste them to form links, without even knowing you are making an effort. when they are not there, you don’t.

@drahardja when I was my kids’ age, i knew a lot about how computers work, because to do the cool stuff computers let you do you had to learn a bit. it was, in that sense, prerequisite. with touchscreens and GUIs that don’t expose a hierarchical file system even as folder icons in a finder, my kid knows none of that. i have to work to make the most basic things visible beneath the slickness, not magic. 1/

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@drahardja computers (maybe masquerading as “phones” and other devices) are ever more essential now, shape our world so much more, and to most people they will always be just magic, with choices made that constrain and guide, of which they cannot be aware let alone resist. 2/

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@drahardja that is what it means to infantilize. when very few people have agency within and sometimes against our technical infrastructure, we are collectively infantilized, disenfranchised.

not everybody will understand the web, sure, and that’s okay.

but if it’s one in ten and everyone has reasonably adept friends, or one in a thousand paid by and so often ideologically captured by a corporate employer, makes a big difference to the character of our society. /fin

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@drahardja the reason to show URLs is not so people can examine them for scams.

the reason to show URLs is so people can know what a URL is, what it means to be at a location on the web, can see and maybe begin to think about a host and a path and a protocol, and different ways paths that are not intentional dark patterns get constructed. 1/

@drahardja most people should not be web “consumers”. the web is not a product. it is a public space. as much as possible we want citizens there who actively participate, not passive recipients of other peoples’ products.

or perhaps it’s on this we disagree. /fin

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@drahardja how do you find it? how do you even know to look? where?

perhaps you think my phrasing was descriptively “infantilizing”, but i am obviously not infantilizing people in the sense of placing them in a position where they are left largely at the mercy of more powerful or knowledgeable actors, the sense i mean, the sense that so much contemporary software excels at.