@KarlHeinzHasliP i guess i disagree with you on this one. i think Westphalian nation states are all we’ve got, but they should be understood as territorial states before nations. The state is prior to the nation, its duty is to continually construct and reconstruct a sense of nation that encompasses the full public of the territory it governs, despite the diversity and dynamism of that public. drafts.interfluidity.com/2024/