@emma if you think that people aren’t persuadable, then what is it that you think you are doing? we have to win over people to do the right thing and vote for the less terrible people. probably calling anyone garbage won’t help much, but sure there may be groups that are unreachable. if you don’t think winning people over possible, what’s the plan? create so much pain they are compelled to do what you want? do you think that’s the likely response?