"Douthat’s point…is that upper class people should 'preach what they practice,' with proponents of that phrase seemingly thinking that it means that upper class people should tell lower class people to marry. But what upper class people practice is not 'marriage.' It’s 'marriage to upper class people.'" #MattBruenig https://mattbruenig.com/2023/09/30/response-to-douthat-on-two-parent-families/
// we can all agree, children of the poor would be better off if a parent had married an Ivy League grad. surely the poor shld delay childbearing until then.
i feel like if we were to put some ants on Mars, surely they would find a way to survive.
@MamasPinkyToe it's been a while! 🙂
@jinxd (i've never been in one!)
@jinxd that seems to be a change too. a decade ago they had a really good reputation for quality. now... not so much. plus, the subscriptions and surveillance and Tesla's ability to brick you. yeah, even at a product level, not so much.
a few years ago, i'd have been excited to drive a Tesla, if that were a thing i could afford.
now i could win the PowerBall or whatever and you'd never see me in a Tesla.
i don't think my worldview is unusual among the clientele for electric vehicles. i'm surprised Elon Musk's antics haven't more directly affected Tesla sales.
@LouisIngenthron I don't think taking control of an chokepoint of influence is "free speech". If people listen to shit he says, fine. If he (and Zuck etc) regulate what people see in their feeds to privilege voices they prefer and suppress alternatives, that is not free speech but its opposite.
@LouisIngenthron if Musk is able to swing an election (i have no idea whether he is or not, but i wish it were implausible), you have to live with the result unless you move to another country. i'm not dissatisfied with Musk because he makes twitter bad as a user. who cares? i'm dissatisfied because he makes my country bad as a citizen.
@LouisIngenthron absolutely. i'm all for doing anything and everything to break them up. but here they are. until then, how do we deal with them? just give them the same freedoms of any 'zine editor (more actually, because Section 230 gives them immunities no 'zine editor ever had).
@inertiate so maybe no section 230 for paid-for speech?
@LouisIngenthron as organs became less influential, they became less regulated. i don't think that's a coincidence — "the constitution is not a suicide pact", and a media organ of sufficient reach and near-monopoly influence supplants government authority if it is not, overtly or tacitly, regulated by it. "constitutional muster" helps determines forms, but is independent of that fact.
@LouisIngenthron Public spectrum was the pretext. But I don’t think they’d have gone unregulated had they achieved comparable dominance by other means (any more than facebook / twitter google etc will, tacitly already have).
And it was hardly viewpoint neutral. The fairness doctrine demanded presentation of viewpoints a publisher might wish not to present, and let the state affirmatively define what viewpoints counted and what could (in fact should, must) be excluded.
@LouisIngenthron I'm not sure the desire is a neutral platform. It's exercising a degree of democratic agency over vast platforms, recognizing that your and my right to say what we want on exactly our own terms has different implications than, say, letting ABC/CBS/NBC (if you r old enough to get that) do the same. (The state de facto exercised a lot of control over broadcast networks, despite the first amendment. We might have this stuff better worked out now if it had been less tacit, de facto)
Very large social media companies _______ be able to moderate content on their platforms as they see fit, without regulation or interference by government that wouldn't also apply to, say, a small-circulation magazine or an internet discussion forum with a few hundred participants.
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