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		<title>By: Fed Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fed Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 19:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DK #35, &quot;On the broken link between productivity and wage growth,&quot;

imo, there is also a medium of exchange problem there too.

http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=277

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/28/where-the-productivity-went/

http://www.epi.org/publication/ib330-productivity-vs-compensation/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DK #35, &#8220;On the broken link between productivity and wage growth,&#8221;</p>
<p>imo, there is also a medium of exchange problem there too.</p>
<p><a href="http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=277" rel="nofollow">http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=277</a></p>
<p><a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/28/where-the-productivity-went/" rel="nofollow">http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/28/where-the-productivity-went/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.epi.org/publication/ib330-productivity-vs-compensation/" rel="nofollow">http://www.epi.org/publication/ib330-productivity-vs-compensation/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fed Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fed Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 19:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More related to the previous depression post but ...

SKIP the whole negative interest rate, private debt, and gov&#039;t debt &quot;thing&quot;.

Try running an economy with zero private debt and zero gov&#039;t debt.

And, figure out how to correctly get more medium of exchange into circulation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More related to the previous depression post but &#8230;</p>
<p>SKIP the whole negative interest rate, private debt, and gov&#8217;t debt &#8220;thing&#8221;.</p>
<p>Try running an economy with zero private debt and zero gov&#8217;t debt.</p>
<p>And, figure out how to correctly get more medium of exchange into circulation.</p>
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		<title>By: BruceMcF</title>
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		<dc:creator>BruceMcF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It does indeed seem to be a choice, but note that &quot;who gets to choose&quot; is largely determined by institutional structure. Since the choice being made is the not only revealed preference but also &lt;i&gt;expressed&lt;/i&gt; preferences of a large group of transnational corporations who are actors in &lt;i&gt;each of&lt;/i&gt; Japan, the United States and the EU would be expected to result in the same policy choice if the preferences of those transnational corporations rule the roost in each. As arguably they do. The institutional details as to how and why those same participants came to rule the policy roost in each could vary widely, so long as that was common to all three.

That would suggest that if there are institutional change that overturns the status quo policy dominance, it would be quite likely that the three would each go their separate ways.

As far as the differences between Japan/US/EU choices and Australian choices, note that they are differences in degree rather than differences in kind.

Perhaps the mining companies and Big Oil are not necessarily entirely in line in terms of their policy preferences ~ or perhaps that being a source of consumers to sell Chinese goods to on credit, as in the US and the EU, and being a source of real resources required for Chinese production, as in Australia, modifies the preferences of transnational corporations with respect to the different economies.

However, a key difference between Australia and Japan, the US and the EU as a group is that the latter group is financial markets in the latter group is where transnational corporations largely originate financial capital that is deployed on a global basis in pursuit of their various objectives ~ a transnational corporation primarily looks on Australian capital markets for originating financial capital for Australian operations to hedge against the massive foreign exchange volatility of the Australian dollar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does indeed seem to be a choice, but note that &#8220;who gets to choose&#8221; is largely determined by institutional structure. Since the choice being made is the not only revealed preference but also <i>expressed</i> preferences of a large group of transnational corporations who are actors in <i>each of</i> Japan, the United States and the EU would be expected to result in the same policy choice if the preferences of those transnational corporations rule the roost in each. As arguably they do. The institutional details as to how and why those same participants came to rule the policy roost in each could vary widely, so long as that was common to all three.</p>
<p>That would suggest that if there are institutional change that overturns the status quo policy dominance, it would be quite likely that the three would each go their separate ways.</p>
<p>As far as the differences between Japan/US/EU choices and Australian choices, note that they are differences in degree rather than differences in kind.</p>
<p>Perhaps the mining companies and Big Oil are not necessarily entirely in line in terms of their policy preferences ~ or perhaps that being a source of consumers to sell Chinese goods to on credit, as in the US and the EU, and being a source of real resources required for Chinese production, as in Australia, modifies the preferences of transnational corporations with respect to the different economies.</p>
<p>However, a key difference between Australia and Japan, the US and the EU as a group is that the latter group is financial markets in the latter group is where transnational corporations largely originate financial capital that is deployed on a global basis in pursuit of their various objectives ~ a transnational corporation primarily looks on Australian capital markets for originating financial capital for Australian operations to hedge against the massive foreign exchange volatility of the Australian dollar.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Sax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The period saw a two-pronged financial and political attack on working people. As a result, we had decades of low inflation, declining worker bargaining power and wage pressure, financial bubbles and financialization of the private sector, the political acceptance of unemployment as a fact of life, and growing inequality.&quot;

    Ok Dan we agree-about this and the failure of Monetarism to control the money supply. 

    Of course this attack on workers-which Volcker did successfully sustain-is what enabled Reagan to hit unions so hard like with the airline workers. He could never had done that without the Volcker induced 11.3% unemployment rate. 
 
    In the 90s Greenspan didn&#039;t have to raise rates anymore because even with unemployment so low the labor unions had been neutered.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The period saw a two-pronged financial and political attack on working people. As a result, we had decades of low inflation, declining worker bargaining power and wage pressure, financial bubbles and financialization of the private sector, the political acceptance of unemployment as a fact of life, and growing inequality.&#8221;</p>
<p>    Ok Dan we agree-about this and the failure of Monetarism to control the money supply. </p>
<p>    Of course this attack on workers-which Volcker did successfully sustain-is what enabled Reagan to hit unions so hard like with the airline workers. He could never had done that without the Volcker induced 11.3% unemployment rate. </p>
<p>    In the 90s Greenspan didn&#8217;t have to raise rates anymore because even with unemployment so low the labor unions had been neutered.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kervick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kervick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Volcker shock therapy definitely had an impact on employment, Mike, but that had nothing to do with monetarism and the policy Friedman and the monetarists had recommended regarding targeting the &quot;supply of money.&quot;   Volcker couldn&#039;t control the supply of money.  They abandoned the official policy of money supply targeting - which was probably just a gesture to faddish monetarism - when it was no longer possible to hide the fact that the monetary aggregates seemed to have a life of their own, and were uninterested in Fed policy.  The real shock therapy was all about astronomical interest rates, unrelated to monetarist theoretical constructions.

The period saw a two-pronged financial and political attack on working people.  As a result, we had decades of low inflation, declining worker bargaining power and wage pressure, financial bubbles and financialization of the private sector, the political acceptance of unemployment as a fact of life, and growing inequality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Volcker shock therapy definitely had an impact on employment, Mike, but that had nothing to do with monetarism and the policy Friedman and the monetarists had recommended regarding targeting the &#8220;supply of money.&#8221;   Volcker couldn&#8217;t control the supply of money.  They abandoned the official policy of money supply targeting &#8211; which was probably just a gesture to faddish monetarism &#8211; when it was no longer possible to hide the fact that the monetary aggregates seemed to have a life of their own, and were uninterested in Fed policy.  The real shock therapy was all about astronomical interest rates, unrelated to monetarist theoretical constructions.</p>
<p>The period saw a two-pronged financial and political attack on working people.  As a result, we had decades of low inflation, declining worker bargaining power and wage pressure, financial bubbles and financialization of the private sector, the political acceptance of unemployment as a fact of life, and growing inequality.</p>
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		<title>By: A Challenge to Interfluidity&#8217;s Point &#8211; Demographics of 1929 vs 1975 vs 2009 &#124; feed on my links</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Challenge to Interfluidity&#8217;s Point &#8211; Demographics of 1929 vs 1975 vs 2009 &#124; feed on my links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] rhetoric suggests the politicians weren&#8217;t as beholden to the median-aged voter as they supposedly are today. Share this:EmailPrintLike this:LikeBe the first to like this post.   This entry was posted in [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Karmakin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karmakin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really like this whole concept. I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s 100% correct (is anything of this nature ever?), but at the very least it&#039;s a step forward I think from conventional political and economic discussion. 

When we&#039;re talking about inflation fears among a large section of the population, we have to remember one very important thing. We&#039;re by and large not talking about a rational reaction. I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s irrational. What I&#039;m saying is that people are not actively thinking about the big picture. They see prices go up, that&#039;s bad. It doesn&#039;t matter if it is due to rising base ingredient costs or rising labor costs or if it&#039;s simply profit-claiming due to less competition in the marketplace, it&#039;s all the same thing. 

And boy does it piss people off. Hell, it pisses me off, and I&#039;m one that would always choose the 5.5% unemployment rate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like this whole concept. I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s 100% correct (is anything of this nature ever?), but at the very least it&#8217;s a step forward I think from conventional political and economic discussion. </p>
<p>When we&#8217;re talking about inflation fears among a large section of the population, we have to remember one very important thing. We&#8217;re by and large not talking about a rational reaction. I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s irrational. What I&#8217;m saying is that people are not actively thinking about the big picture. They see prices go up, that&#8217;s bad. It doesn&#8217;t matter if it is due to rising base ingredient costs or rising labor costs or if it&#8217;s simply profit-claiming due to less competition in the marketplace, it&#8217;s all the same thing. </p>
<p>And boy does it piss people off. Hell, it pisses me off, and I&#8217;m one that would always choose the 5.5% unemployment rate.</p>
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		<title>By: Why We&#8217;ll Never See Inflation Soon &#124; feed on my links</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why We&#8217;ll Never See Inflation Soon &#124; feed on my links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 15:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike Sax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Sax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Dan, let me see if I have it straight. Are you saying that Volcker jacking up rates as high as he did-did or did not cause unemployment to hit 11.3%]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Dan, let me see if I have it straight. Are you saying that Volcker jacking up rates as high as he did-did or did not cause unemployment to hit 11.3%</p>
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		<title>By: Ignacio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ignacio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another asset that policymakers like to protect is housing prices. Retirees, near retirees and homeowners in general don&#039;t like to see the value of their houses plummeting and several measures around OECD countries were designed to prevent or to ameliorate the inevitable housing bust. Most of QE in OECD countries was dedicated to keep the value of mortgage-backed loans. In other words, not to admit that those loans were overiflated and that the collateral value was (is) sinking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another asset that policymakers like to protect is housing prices. Retirees, near retirees and homeowners in general don&#8217;t like to see the value of their houses plummeting and several measures around OECD countries were designed to prevent or to ameliorate the inevitable housing bust. Most of QE in OECD countries was dedicated to keep the value of mortgage-backed loans. In other words, not to admit that those loans were overiflated and that the collateral value was (is) sinking.</p>
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